you know, through the technology with the internet, they're able to update and keep people informed of what is going on. >> ok, i'm going move on. did the forest service come into the shenandoah valley, into the communities and hold public input meetings? >> yes, sir. there were a series of public meetings. >> they did, ok. did you participate? >> yes, sir, i did. >> and ms. mall, did you participate in those as well? >> no, i did not. >> did you provide testimony? >> yes, sir, we've come in several times on the forest plan. >> certainly. that would be great. >> is your organization involved in any litigation on drilling? >> yes, sir. >> they are. i mean, one lawsuit, several lawsuits, how many? >> i'm not a lawyer, i'm not involved in litigation myself.